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Rank - worldwide comparison

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Table of approximate equivalences between ranking systems

Please help to improve this table by adding data to our /DataCollection and feel free to edit it if you have more accurate information than currently presented.

However, since universally valid ranks do not exist; this is and will always be a table of approximate rank equivalences.

The table starts with beginners and ends with amateur experts.

 
Go Associations Go Servers
Japan China Korea [ 4 ] Europe AGA KGS IGS Wbaduk [ 5 ] DGS OGS FICGS Tygem [ 6 ]
25k 28k 30k 28k 25k 20k BC 25-21k 28k 28k 21k
24k 27k 29k 27k 24k 19k BC 25-21k 27k 27k 21k
23k 26k 28k 26k 23k 18k BC 25-21k 26k 26k 21k
22k 25k 27k 25k 22k 17k BC 25-21k 26k 25k 21k
21k 24k 26k 24k 21k 16k BC 25-21k 25k 24k 21k
20k 23k 25k 23k 20k 16k BC 25-21k 24k 23k 21k
19k 22k 24k 22k 19k 16k BC 25-21k 23k 22k 21k
18k 21k 23k 21k 18k 15k BC 25-19k 22k 21k 21k
17k 20k 22k 20k 17k 15k BC 24-18k 21k 20k 21k
16k 19k 21k 19k 16k 14k BC 23-17k 20k 19k 20k
15k 18k 20k 18k 15k 13k BC 21-16k 19k 18k 19k
14k 17k 19k 17k 14k 12k 17k 20-15k 18k 17k 18k
14k 17k 19k 17k 13k 12k 16k 19-14k 17k 16k 17k
13k 16k 18k 16k 12k 11k 15k 18-13k 16k 15k 16k
12k 15k 17k 15k 11k 10k 14k 18-13k 15k 14k 15k
11k 14k 16k 14k 10k 9k 13k 18-12k 14k 13k 14k
11k 13k 15k 14k 9k 8k 13k 18-12k 13k 12k 13k
10k 12k 14k 13k 8k 7k 12k 17-12k 12k 11k 12k
9k 11k 13k 12k 7k 7k 11k 16-11k 11k 10k 11k
8k 10k 12k 11k 6k 6k 10k 16-10k 10k 9k 10k
Japan China Korea [ 4 ] Europe AGA KGS IGS Wbaduk [ 5 ] DGS OGS FICGS Tygem [ 6 ]
7k 9k 11k 10k 6k 6k 9k 15-9k 9k 8k 9k
6k 8k 10k 9k 5k 5k 8k 14-8k 8k 7k 8k
5k 7k 9k 8k 5k 5k 7k 13-7k 8k 6k 7k
4k 6k 8k 7k 4k 4-5k 6k 12-6k 7k 5k 6k
3k 5k 7k 6k 3k 2-3k 5k 10-5k 6k 4k 5k
2k 4k 6k 5k 2k 2k 4k 8-3k 5k 3k 4k
1k 3k 5k 4k 1k 2k 3k 6-2k 4k 2k 3k
1d 2k 4k 3k 1d 1k 2k 4-1k 3k 1k 2k
2d 1k 3k 2k 2d 1k-1d 1k 2k-2d 2k 1d 1k
3d 1d 2k 1k-1d 3d 1-2d 1d 1-3d 1k 2d 1k 1d
4d 2d 1k 1d-2d 4d 2-3d 2d 2-4d 1d 3d 1d
4d 3d 1d 2d-3d 5d 4d 3d 3-5d 2d 4d 1d
5d 4d 2d 3d 6d 5d 4d 4-6d 3d 5d 2d
5d 4d 3d 4d 6d 5d 5d 5-6d 4d 5d 3d
6d 5d 4d 5d 7d 6d 6d 6-7d 5d 4d
6d 5d 5d 6d 7d 7d 7d 7d 6d 5d
7d 6d 6d 7d 7d 8d 8d 8d 6d 6d
7d 7d 6d 7d [ 3 ] 7d 9d 9d 8d 6d 7d
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Problems with the table presented above

Be very aware that the information in this table is at best an approximation, and is not very reliable.

  • People are living in different time zones - some play comfortable in the evening while their opponents play in the middle of the night.
  • Older data points used to create the table have not been removed when the relevant ranking system changed.
  • The AGA has no ranks at all, just numerical ratings. There is no official translation between numerical ratings and ranks, and there are no ranks above 7d.
  • EGF ranks vary internally in Europe. A large range of methodologies exist to allocate ranks, ranging from Anarchy to Strict Implementation of the GoR formula. Selecting a country from [ext] this page at the EGD will display a graph comparing that country's ratings versus standard GoR.
  • Likewise ranks are awarded differently in provinces in China, and it is undoubtably the case in Japan and Korea too.
  • WBaduk ranks vary internally between the different servers.
  • The whole list expresses strength differences only with integers, hence might be off by half a dan grade (China)
  • Blitz internet ranks and ranks derived from slower time limits online are often markedly diverse.
  • Turn based servers can suffer from novices improving far faster than the rating system can cope with. (This is also a problem in EGF territories which use a strict implementation of GoR with no rating resets.)
  • The ranks below 20kyu do not exist in some countries in Europe.
  • Some people will play whilst drinking online
  • Some people will play online whilst distracted by children, siblings, or parents.
  • Ranks from face-to-face games are based on comparatively small numbers of games (often played in tournaments) which are taken more seriously. Ranks from online servers include large numbers of games played more casually.
  • The internet can also contain sandbaggers , players who are deliberately playing under their strength in order to beat up weaker players. The IGS rank of 30kyu used to be notorious for this.
  • There is no data for South America or Australasia. [ 2 ]
  • AGA ranks vary internally in the USA, one coast is said to be stronger than the other.
  • Depending on where a player learned to play go and where he mainly plays, it is possible that he is significantly stronger or weaker on real gobans than on virtual ones. A difference of 5 stones and more are not unusual.
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Rating methods

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More ratings links

See also:


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Footnotes

[ 1 ] BC ( B eginners C lass) is a blanket initial rank at IGS. Unranked people & guests start as BC for their first 5 games at least. The first numbered IGS rank appears to be 17kyu currently. There are also some stronger players who choose to have a BC rank.
[ 2 ] xela : As I understand it, Australian ranks are set by consensus within each go club. There are not enough tournament games for accurate calculations in the style of American and European ranks. It's generally believed that Australian kyu ranks sit somewhere between the American and Japanese ranks. High dan ranks are possibly a bit stronger (Australian 7 dans seem to hold their own against other 7 dans at the WAGC ), and so it's likely that the spacing between dan ranks is greater than one handicap stone per rank. Possibly someone else will have more accurate data on this.
[ 3 ] A European 7D grade is claimed to be the approximate equivalent to a professional 1D grade by the EGF.
[ 4 ] This column represents the rankings as used by the Hankuk Kiwon , for information on the old gup ranks, see rank - gup (Korean) explained
[ 5 ] Ranks on Wbaduk (formerly Orobaduk, CyberOro ) depend on the server you play on: On the Japanese server the ranks tend to be better than on the Korean servers.
[ 6 ] Now that the Tygem English server is open, perhaps we can include Tygem ranks here when more data becomes available.


Rank - worldwide comparison last edited by 212.74.192.91 on May 27, 2011 - 16:50