Another possible improvement for me, following T212743 :
I get that, possibly, when edit notices were designed in visual editor, the designers probably wanted to move away from ‘additional visual clutter’ and focus on the content. But while I understand it, I don’t really think that anyone reads the text that was put in a tiny space that is routinely scrollable.
And, what matters the most, edit notices can routinely contain useful information that could resolve in a block if user ignores it. What I’m getting at is: can we make it more prominent, even if it would be ‘damaging’ to the design? Quick mockup (in VE, but same for 2017WE):
If this was considered and declined, sorry, I didn’t find a task for it.
2021 edit: This is actually even more pressing for new editors, since they get not one, but two modals (‘Welcome to Wikipedia!’ popup and editnotice modal) when opening the visual editor. In my proposed setup, it would be less easy to miss one while closing another.
I support this task because important messages like AfC notice and blocked account warnings are getting squished and people may dismiss them as a whole.
Examples are from Thai Wikipedia 2010 Wikieditor
Another quick mock up
Another point why this should be considered: if the page was previously deleted, in VE that is currently invisible because of how the modal is structured: https://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aeronautica_Nazionale_Repubblicana&action=edit&redlink=1
VE team should really think about how their unconventional edit notice design impacts things.
@stjn assuming it would be accurate for me to understand this request as an effort to increase the likelihood that people who are in the midst of an edit are likely to see and "internalize" the information that is currently presented within Edit Notices, can you please share, from your experience, what you think are the most important messages/pieces of information people who are new need to know about?
Well, usually it would go:
In standard wikitext-based edit form these are done the other way around either because of negligence or because you are more likely to read something that is located near the edit box. I think that’s how I think about this information, but I can invite other people into this discussion for a more representative sample.
Forgot another good point: ‘You are not logged in’ notices should be as prominent as they can anywhere (if anything, they're not as prominent as they should be), as it leads to editors sometimes logging out as a mistake and leaking their personal data.
Currently it looks like a regular old unimportant notice in VE, which is confounding: