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Wikitech-ambassadors July 2018

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Technical Advice IRC Meeting: Now with an additional time slot at 11 pm UTC!

by Michael Schonitzer

*Hello all,starting this week the Technical Advice IRC Meeting will take place not only every Wednesday at 3 pm UTC, but also every first Wednesday of the month at 11 pm UTC. This will allow people from other timezones to attend.The Technical Advice IRC Meeting (TAIM) is a weekly support event for volunteer developers. Every Wednesday, two full-time developers are available to help you with all your questions about Mediawiki, gadgets, tools and more! This can be anything from "how to get started" over "who would be the best contact for X" to specific questions on your project.The support meeting has been initiated by WMDE’s tech team about a year ago and will be continued as a cooperation between WMF and WMDE staff members from August 1st on.Technical Advice IRC meeting this week: **Wednesday, August 1st at 3-4 pm UTC and 11-12 pm UTC** on #wikimedia-tech.If you know already what you would like to discuss or ask, please add your topic to the next meeting: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting >Hope to see you there!Michi (for the Technical Advice IRC Meeting crew)* -- Michael F. Schonitzer Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/ Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Forderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnutzig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt fur Korperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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Tech News (2018, week 31)

by Benoit Evellin (Trizek)

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[Train] 1.32.0-wmf.14 status update

by ?eljko Filipin

Hi, 1.32.0-wmf.14 version of MediaWiki is blocked [0]. The new version is deployed to group 0 [1], but can proceed no further until these issues are resolved: - Wikibase\DataModel\Entity\EntityIdParsingException $serialization must not be an empty string - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200340 - wmf.14 failing to execute ThumbnailRender jobs "error: ThumbnailRenderJob::run: HTTP request failure" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T200346 Once these issues are resolved train can resume. If these issues are resolved on a Friday the train will resume Monday. Thank you for your help resolving these issues! ?eljko -- [0] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191060 [1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/versions

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MW Train status: Incomplete rollout, blocked on two issues

by Greg Grossmeier

Hello, The 1.32.0-wmf.13 version of MediaWiki is rollout to almost all group0 and group1 wikis, but not group2. In plain wording: It is deployed to all non-wikipedias (Commons, wiktionaries, etc) except Wikidata. It was blocked from going to all wikis yesterday due to two issues found during the week: * Fatal MWException in Babel: "Language::isValidBuiltInCode must be passed a string" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T199941 * Wikidata showing wrong language for page elements - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T199983 Assuming these issues are resolved before Monday we hope to resume the deployment of this version Monday during European working hours. The tracking task for this deployment: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191059 A handy tool to see which wikis have which version: https://tools.wmflabs.org/versions/ Greg -- | Greg Grossmeier GPG: B2FA 27B1 F7EB D327 6B8E | | Release Team Manager A18D 1138 8E47 FAC8 1C7D |

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Grievances about future technical administrator group

by Saint Johann

This might a wrong venue to discuss this but these were the worst 3 days of my participation in Wikimedia movement, and that feeling is probably shared by my colleagues. The consultation about the creation of new technical administrators group that just ended yesterday was an utter and total disaster for people with existing non-sysop groups for editing JS/CSS. In Russian Wikipedia, for 300 Kb already [1], people are weaponising every reading of the consultation document (which they, for some reason, consider akin to global policy) against, uniting the same-minded groups (local ‘engineer’ group was created under a ‘Technical administrator group’ RfC) for an umbrella of reasons: ? Some tell that, apparently, after working for 2 years already and doing more edits than all sysops combined in JS/CSS, engineers do not have ‘at least as much trust as being an administrator’ since they weren’t elected like administrators (we are electing sysops with a vote and engineers are being elected with a discussion, so people argue that engineers do not have trust because they weren’t subjected to a vote). ? Others claim that, because MediaWiki developer community decided to unite those rights under one group, merging any groups with it is not acceptable, and, moreover, the engineer group shouldn't be given those rights at all. ? Moreover, some people claim that if a group would be too small, like engineers right now (12 accounts with 85 sysops), they could, in opinion of those people, usurp all editing of JS/CSS, decline to revert edits that are deemed controversial by community, and this justifies giving the permissions to all 85 existing sysops, even those that didn’t edit JS/CSS at all. I do not expect organisers of the consultation and MediaWiki developer community to intervene into a discussion that's happening in a foreign language, but I really think that it all comes down to focusing on projects that didn’t have any technical administrators and not explaining anything to projects that did. In the retrospective, I really wish that I did more push on this point on Phabricator [2] since this was a major point that I expected to backfire because of the vague wording of the document and that did backfire. What I would like to have from the global community, though, is a clear documentation for people who are affected by this change, because right now, because of misinformation, misreadings and over-interpretations, it could go as far as losing all interface editing permissions for me and others because the document in question didn’t go far enough on the qualifications and left too much to community’s assumptions. Oleg [1]: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Википедия:Форум/Правила#Объединение_флагов_ин… < https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0… > [2]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T190015#4257719

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Tech News (2018, week 30)

by Benoit Evellin (Trizek)

Latest *tech news < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News >* from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2018/30 > are available: ??????? < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/30/ar > ? ??e?tina < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/30/cs > ? ? ?Esperanto < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/30/eo > ? ?espanol < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/30/es > ? ?suomi < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/30/fi > ? ?francais < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/30/fr > ? ?????? < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/30/he > ? ??????? < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/30/hi > ? ?日本語 < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/30/ja > ? ?polski < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/30/pl > ? ?русский < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/30/ru > ? ?svenska < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/30/sv > ? ??語 < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/30/yue > ? ?中文 < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/30/zh > (Because of Wikimania travel and other issues, this issue has been exceptionally distributed today.) *Recent changes* - When you log in to your account you can choose to keep being logged in. This checkbox now works better than before on the mobile version for users without JavaScript. [1] < https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T196947 > - Wikis that use Citoid < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Citoid > can automatically generate citations for Swedish news sites. This only works in the visual editor. This now works for Swedish public service radio < https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:Sveriges_radio >. More will come. Others could use this to add news sites in other languages in the future. [2] < https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187023 > - Editors can do max 90 edits per minute. This is new since last month. This does not affect bots or administrators. [3] < https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T56515 > *Changes later this week* - [image: Recurrent item] The new version < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.32/wmf.14 > of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 July. It will be on all wikis from 26 July (calendar < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.32/Roadmap >). *Meetings* - [image: Recurrent item] [image: Advanced item] You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 25 July at 15:00 (UTC) < https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20180725T15 >. See how to join < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting >. *Tech news < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News > prepared by Tech News writers < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers > and posted by bot < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki_message_d… > ? Contribute < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute > ? Translate < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2018/30 > ? Get help < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech > ? Give feedback < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tech/News > ? Subscribe or unsubscribe < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambass… >.* -- Benoit Evellin (Trizek) Community Liaison Wikimedia Foundation

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Wednesday: Technical Advice IRC Meeting

by Michael Schonitzer

Reminder: Technical Advice IRC meeting again **Wednesday 3-4 pm UTC** on #wikimedia-tech. The Technical Advice IRC Meeting (TAIM) is a weekly support event for volunteer developers. Every Wednesday, two full-time developers are available to help you with all your questions about Mediawiki, gadgets, tools and more! This can be anything from "how to get started" over "who would be the best contact for X" to specific questions on your project. In addition to the weekly meeting at 3 pm, we will have an additional meeting every first Wednesday of the month at 11 pm UTC, starting August 1st, 2018! If you know already what you would like to discuss or ask, please add your topic to the next meeting: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting Hope to see you there! Michi (for WMDE’s tech team) -- Michael F. Schonitzer Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/ Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Forderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnutzig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt fur Korperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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Wednesday: Technical Advice IRC Meeting (Wikimania Special!)

by Michael Schonitzer

Reminder: Technical Advice IRC meeting again **tomorrow, Wednesday 3-4 pm UTC** on #wikimedia-tech. This time with a Wikimedia Special[1] in English and German! The Technical Advice IRC meeting is open for all volunteer developers, topics and questions. This can be anything from "how to get started" over "who would be the best contact for X" to specific questions on your project. If you know already what you would like to discuss or ask, please add your topic to the next meeting: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting Hope to see you there! Michi (for WMDE’s tech team) [1]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T199093 -- Michael F. Schonitzer Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/ Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Forderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnutzig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt fur Korperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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Tech News (2018, week 29)

by Benoit Evellin (Trizek)

Latest *tech news < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News >* from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2018/29 > are available: ??????? < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/29/ar > ? ??e?tina < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/29/cs > ? ?English ? ? suomi < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/29/fi > ? ?francais < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/29/fr > ? ?????? < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/29/he > ? ??????? < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/29/hi > ? ?italiano < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/29/it > ? ?日本語 < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/29/ja > ? ?polski < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/29/pl > ? ?русский < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/29/ru > ? ?укра?нська < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/29/uk > ? ?中文 < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2018/29/zh > *Recent changes* - You can now use global preferences < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:GlobalPreferences > on Wikimedia wikis. You can set them on the global preferences page < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalPreferences >. [1] < https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T16950 > - You can now see a new log of pages being created at Special:Log/create < https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/create >. It includes pages which are later deleted. It is now available on all Wikimedia wikis except Commons and Wikidata. [2] < https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T12331 > - You can see how many pageviews a wiki had from specific countries. The Wikistats2 maps < https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/sv.wikipedia.org/reading/page-views-by-cou… > have now been updated. [3] < https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2018-July/090327.html > *Changes later this week* - Your watchlist will show changes from the last seven days instead of three. If you have already set a length preference it will not change. [4] < https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T194414 > - [image: Recurrent item] The new version < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.32/wmf.13 > of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 July. It will be on all wikis from 19 July (calendar < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.32/Roadmap >). *Meetings* - [image: Recurrent item] You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 17 July at 18:30 (UTC) < https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20180717T1830 >. See how to join < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Editing_team/Weekly_triage_meetings >. - [image: Recurrent item] [image: Advanced item] You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 18 July at 15:00 (UTC) < https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20180718T15 >. See how to join < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting >. *Future changes* - Some articles have messages to readers about problems with the article. For example that it does not cite sources or might not be neutral. Readers do not see these messages on the mobile version. The developers now want to show them. You can read more and leave feedback < https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Projects/Mobi… > . - You can use <inputbox> to create search boxes for specific pages. For example to search the archives of a community discussion page. Instead of prefix:Page name you will see a text that explains which pages are being searched. You can read more and leave feedback < https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198318 >. *Tech news < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News > prepared by Tech News writers < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers > and posted by bot < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki_message_d… > ? Contribute < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute > ? Translate < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2018/29 > ? Get help < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech > ? Give feedback < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tech/News > ? Subscribe or unsubscribe < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambass… >.* -- Benoit Evellin (Trizek) Community Liaison Wikimedia Foundation

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Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Additional European-appropriate MediaWiki train window starting week of July 9th (also SWAT change)

by Steven Finell

Ah, yes, the United States. Under a federal (i.e., national) statute, the so-called Uniform Time Act of 1966< https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Time_Act >, daylight saving time is uniform throughout the United States, except for the opt-out states of Hawaii and Arizona (except for Navaho territories within Arizona, which do observe daylight saving time), and except for several overseas territories of the United States. Even a computer should not be required to put up with this patchwork of nonsense. I agree with the others who advocated use of UTC, which is uniform worldwide and which anyone can convert to local time. Steven Finell From: Wikitech-ambassadors [mailto:wikitech-ambassadors-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 11:43 AM To: Wikimedia developers Cc: Marko Obrovac; Development and Operations engineers; Wikitech Ambassadors; Operations Engineers Subject: Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Additional European-appropriate MediaWiki train window starting week of July 9th (also SWAT change) On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 12:19 PM, Kunal Mehta <legoktm(a)member.fsf.org<mailto:legoktm@member.fsf.org>> wrote: (un)relatedly: * EU survey to remove summertime/DST: < https://ec.europa.eu/eusurvey/runner/2018-summertime-arrangements?surve ylanguage=EN> * California Proposition 7 (2018) to institute a permanent DST: < https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_7,_Permanent_Daylight_Sa ving_Time_Measure_(2018)> Hopefully we can get rid of this problem at the root cause as well :) You forgot about most of the rest of the US ;) -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Senior Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation

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