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• 13 Jun 2024 ? Crien Bolhuis-Schilstra ( talk ?·? edit ?·? hist ) was nominated for DYK by Evrik ( t ?·? c ) ; see discussion
• 05 Jun 2024 ? Lookwide Camp ( talk ?·? edit ?·? hist ) was nominated for DYK by Evrik ( t ?·? c ) ; see discussion
• 30 May 2024 ? Dagmar Skalova ( talk ?·? edit ?·? hist ) was nominated for DYK by Evrik ( t ?·? c ) ; see discussion

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• 17 Jun 2024 ? Cook Islands Boy Scout Association ( talk ?·? edit ?·? hist ) was AfDed by Alexeyevitch ( t ?·? c ) ; see discussion ( 3 participants )
• 15 Jun 2024 ? Regions of the Boy Scouts of America ( talk ?·? edit ?·? hist ) was AfDed by Graywalls ( t ?·? c ) ; see discussion ( 4 participants )
• 14 Jun 2024 ? Philmont Training Center ( talk ?·? edit ?·? hist ) was AfDed by Sp ( t ?·? c ) ; see discussion ( 1 participant )
• 13 Jun 2024 ? Homenetmen ( talk ?·? edit ?·? hist ) was AfDed by Drmies ( t ?·? c ) ; see discussion ( 3 participants )
• 13 Jun 2024 ? San Diego-Imperial Council ( talk ?·? edit ?·? hist ) was AfDed by Drmies ( t ?·? c ) ; see discussion ( 3 participants )
• 13 Jun 2024 ? Mount Diablo Silverado Council ( talk ?·? edit ?·? hist ) was AfDed by Sp ( t ?·? c ) ; see discussion ( 7 participants )
• 13 Jun 2024 ? Crien Bolhuis-Schilstra ( talk ?·? edit ?·? hist ) was AfDed by Fram ( t ?·? c ) ; see discussion ( 8 participants )
• 07 Jun 2024 ? Philmont Leadership Challenge ( talk ?·? edit ?·? hist ) AfDed by Graywalls ( t ?·? c ) was closed as delete by OwenX ( t ?·? c ) on 14 Jun 2024; see discussion ( 7 participants )
• 07 Jun 2024 ? Introduction to Leadership Skills (Boy Scouts of America) ( talk ?·? edit ?·? hist ) AfDed by Graywalls ( t ?·? c ) was closed as delete by OwenX ( t ?·? c ) on 14 Jun 2024; see discussion ( 9 participants )

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• 13 Jun 2024 ? Kazakh Guide Association ( talk ?·? edit ?·? hist ) → Scouting and Guiding in Kazakhstan was RfDed by Drmies ( t ?·? c ) ; see discussion

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• 15 Mar 2024 ? Draft:Catharina Helena Bolhuis-Schilstra ( talk ?·? edit ?·? hist ) submitted for AfC by Cflam01 ( t ?·? c ) was accepted to Crien Bolhuis-Schilstra ( talk ?·? edit ?·? hist ) by Bogger ( t ?·? c ) on 12 Jun 2024

Cook Islands Boy Scout Association

Cook Islands Boy Scout Association ( edit ?| talk ?| history ?| protect ?| delete ?| links ?| watch ?| logs ?| views ) ? ( View AfD | edits since nomination )

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This has no sigcov/notability and no coverage in secondary and reliable sources. Alexeyevitch ^{( talk )} 04:46, 17 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions . Alexeyevitch ^{( talk )} 04:46, 17 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]
• Move the material to Scouts Aotearoa at least until there is much more material than there is now and do the same for Scouting in Niue and Scouting in Tokelau . Bduke ( talk ) 04:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations and Scouting . WC Quidditch ☎ ? 10:54, 17 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

Regions of the Boy Scouts of America

Regions of the Boy Scouts of America ( edit ?| talk ?| history ?| protect ?| delete ?| links ?| watch ?| logs ?| views ) ? ( View AfD | edits since nomination )

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Because, it's guidebook like. Per deletion policies 13 & 14: "Any other use of the article, template, project, or user namespace that is contrary to the established separate policy for that namespace". That policy would be WP:NOTAGUIDE

"Any other content not suitable for an encyclopedia"

This article is basically internal documentation and not unlike an article like Safeway region, or Best Buy Districts sourcing to their own documents of internal interest only. At best it's a re-direct, but I'm wondering the necessity of having so many of them that maybe on the verge of becoming keyword stuffing. Graywalls ( talk ) 03:08, 15 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations , Scouting , and United States of America . Graywalls ( talk ) 03:08, 15 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

Merge - Could this be merged into Boy Scouts of America ? Eopsid ( talk ) 15:06, 15 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

The article is 100% primary sourced, so not suitable. Graywalls ( talk ) 15:10, 15 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

• Delete per nom. However, the redirects for the old regions (i.e. Central Region (Boy Scouts of America) ) should be retargeted back to List_of_councils_(Boy_Scouts_of_America) . Walsh90210 ( talk ) 17:53, 15 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]
• Merge The article doesn't demonstrate standalone notability, but I don't see the issue with using a primary source to briefly cover the regions in the Boy Scouts of America article. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 16:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

  It's already there. Boy_Scouts_of_America#National_Service_Territories So perhaps, del-n-redir might do? Graywalls ( talk ) 01:06, 18 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

• Delete As per Graywalls.

Axad12 ( talk ) 18:03, 17 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

Philmont Training Center

Philmont Training Center ( edit ?| talk ?| history ?| protect ?| delete ?| links ?| watch ?| logs ?| views ) ? ( View AfD | edits since nomination )

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Fails WP:GNG . WP:Before via newspaper and library search shows no independent sources covering the center itself in depth. All current sources are from the organization that runs it or a conference listing. spryde | talk 19:44, 14 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations , Scouting , and California . spryde | talk 19:44, 14 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

  • Delete For the reasons outlined by spryde.

  Axad12 ( talk ) 18:41, 17 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

Mount Diablo Silverado Council

Mount Diablo Silverado Council ( edit ?| talk ?| history ?| protect ?| delete ?| links ?| watch ?| logs ?| views ) ? ( View AfD | edits since nomination )

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Fails WP:GNG . No independent notability shown in reliable secondary sources. Secondary sources provided are either unreliable or passing mentions. spryde | talk 13:26, 13 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

• Keep or Merge to Defunct local councils of the Boy Scouts of America in California#Mount Diablo Silverado Council . There's a lot of content there. The article simply needs a good editor. -- evrik  ^{( talk )} 13:49, 13 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]
• Delete . While No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability is only an essay, it saves me from having to type out my argument. Even if a target can't be decided now, a re-direct can be quickly created at any time by any editor. Graywalls ( talk ) 19:42, 13 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]
• Delete per nom, basically. Just no notability. This is not unlike what we see in articles on university departments--they are rarely notable in their own right, and that their existence relies on being part of a notable organization doesn't make them notable. I doubt that really any councils are notable--looking at the category and clicking randomly on one, San Diego-Imperial Council , that one is not notable. Drmies ( talk ) 21:45, 13 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations , Scouting , and California . Spiderone ^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:40, 13 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]
• Delete no notability. It's weird how some sections of the project just accumulate cruft. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 ( talk ) 16:28, 14 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]
• Delete : Topic is not notable, as councils, even with so many references (many of which are primary), are not notable to begin with. Also, there isn't much coverage on the topic. Haruka Amaranth 09:27, 15 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

  • Delete Not notable.

  Axad12 ( talk ) 18:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

San Diego-Imperial Council

San Diego-Imperial Council ( edit ?| talk ?| history ?| protect ?| delete ?| links ?| watch ?| logs ?| views ) ? ( View AfD | edits since nomination )

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Fails WP:GNG . No independent notability shown in reliable secondary sources. There is one secondary source, about a small fire in 2004, which does not make the council/camp notable--and one wonders whose bottle rockets they were. Councils/camps from the BSA or any other organization are rarely notable in their own right and this one is no expection. Drmies ( talk ) 21:48, 13 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations , Scouting , and California . Spiderone ^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:35, 13 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]
• Delete and re-direct to List of councils (Boy Scouts of America) . Does not meet WP:NCORP to warrant its standalone article. Graywalls ( talk ) 10:37, 14 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

• Delete As per Drmies.

Axad12 ( talk ) 18:05, 17 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

Homenetmen

Homenetmen ( edit ?| talk ?| history ?| protect ?| delete ?| links ?| watch ?| logs ?| views ) ? ( View AfD | edits since nomination )

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This article was deleted following Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scouts-in-Exteris ; I don't know why it was undeleted. Since then (May 2020) there has been no improvement, and the article consists of unverified text/OR (which, surprisingly, spends very little time on the actual organization and fails to say much that indicates notability) and a long, long, and unencyclopedic collection of linkspam. Drmies ( talk ) 21:55, 13 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations , Scouting , Sports , and Armenia . Spiderone ^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:34, 13 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

• Keep and improve . Clarification is in order for the nomination statement above. Homenetmen was created in 2016 and was never deleted . The discussion from 2020 saw just 1 other editor vote on your original nom, which was in regards to a different article. It was your recommendation that Homenetmen be deleted as well, but the article was never officially deleted. Now, back to content, this is a pretty notable scouting organization with active chapters across the world. A simple google search yielded 419,000 results; WP:RS confirming WP:N is indeed there. There are several wiki articles which are integrated to this parent article like Homenetmen Beirut and Homenetmen Antelias , which makes the deletion of this parent article seem odd to me. With that being said, I do agree that a lot of work is needed to improve the article and remove 'spammy' content. With a bit of tough love, the article can be saved. Archives908 ( talk ) 23:59, 13 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]
  • Archives908 , it was deleted as a result of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Scouts-in-Exteris , as the log reflects, on 31 May 2020, and undeleted "per request at WP:RFUD" (I'm copying from the deletion log) on the same day. If your simple google search delivers so many results, please show us a couple that meet RS. Drmies ( talk ) 21:18, 14 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]
• Keep . I concur with the above. This seems to pass WP:SIGCOV and should stay. Garsh ( talk ) 03:11, 14 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

Crien Bolhuis-Schilstra

Crien Bolhuis-Schilstra ( edit ?| talk ?| history ?| protect ?| delete ?| links ?| watch ?| logs ?| views ) ? ( View AfD | edits since nomination )

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I can't find evidence of notability , the only indepth source is this , published by Scouting.nl, i.e. the organisation she worked for (not an independent source). The other sources are primary sources or passing mentions. Fram ( talk ) 08:40, 13 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

Merge into section of Vereeniging Nederlandsch Indische Padvinders , removing biographical info, keeping the scouting CV, POW information. The content is notable, even if the author is not notable enough. - Bogger ( talk ) 10:46, 13 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women , History , Military , Scouting , Indonesia , and Netherlands . Fram ( talk ) 08:40, 13 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

Keep There are sufficient details here to merit keeping the article. -- evrik  ^{( talk )} 13:36, 13 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

That's not a policy based reason to keep or delete articles. Which sources are independent and indepth? Fram ( talk ) 13:43, 13 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

• Keep : Well referenced figure, historically notable. ?DMartin 02:15, 14 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

Keep : Subject is notable and reliably sourced. WC gudang inspirasi ( ^{Read! Talk!} ) 14:32, 14 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

Keep : My vote is obviously to keep it; I wrote the article as I deemed it historically significant and notable. Cflam01 ( talk ) 14:51, 14 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

It would be nice if anyone would actually address the nomination, and indicate which sources are (as required) independent of the subject and giving indepth coverage . The only indepth coverage I see is from a Dutch scouting site, so not independent (an organisation writing about aspects of its own history). Fram ( talk ) 15:03, 14 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

Delete as a clear WP:GNG failure. Without any sources that support notability, it is unclear if and how much content should be moved to Vereeniging Nederlandsch Indische Padvinders (correctly identified as a potential target by Bogger ). So a BIG NO to merge. Redirect isn't right either, as Bolhuis-Schilstra was not organically included in the body of the target (only as possible other reading). Hence this should default to delete. Thanks to Fram for nominating. By no means the first time we see excessive Dutch scouting biographies. gidonb ( talk ) 19:00, 16 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

BTW, this article is the best I could find, and isn't good enough: ?Mijn leven in Indie", door een oudleerlinge van de Koloniale school.. "Haagsche courant". 's-Gravenhage, 11-03-1937. Geraadpleegd op Delpher op 16-06-2024, https://resolver.kb.nl/resolve?urn=MMKB04:000149139:mpeg21:p018 gidonb ( talk ) 21:23, 16 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

• Delete : the keep !votes above are extremely weak and should obviously be dismissed by the closer, while a quick look at the "well referenced" article shows a distinct lack of WP:SIGCOV at all. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 ( talk ) 16:36, 17 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

  • Delete As per AirshipJungleman29's comments directly above.

  Axad12 ( talk ) 18:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC) [ reply ]

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