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Hi again Rusty! Sometimes, when I use the automatic citation feature for a weblink, I get something like this:
"Fields, Christopher; Staff, WLBT com (2022-01-22). "Capri Movie Theatre to show first film in decades".
https://www.wlbt.com
. Retrieved 2024-05-03.
: External link in |website= (help)".
At this point, I usually manually input the citation instead to get rid of the
portion. I've read the help page on it and still don't quite understand what is causing it to appear that way. I was wondering if you could help explain why some citations pull up that way! --
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: Hello again! To solve this, you can click on the citation in the text, click on "edit," click the text, click "edit" again, and make sure that there isn't a website name in "name of website." (there might be a faster way to do this, but I might not be aware of it.)
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- Gotcha! Thanks Rusty!
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{{tl|template name}}
, for example:
{{tl|cite web}}
produces:
{{
cite web
}}
without giving the "empty citation" error.
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- Gotcha, this is handy advise to have, thanks again!!
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how do I make a biography --
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, however, note that creating an autobiography for yourself is not allowed.
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How do I make a citation --
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Help:Referencing for beginners
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Hi there! Phase I of the
Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review
has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:
See the
project page
for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far?:) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II.
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Hello how do I create cotitation --
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I reopened the AfD you closed to allow for more opinions. Ignoring the "it's pretty significant"
WP:VAGUEWAVE
non-argument, there are only two valid views there, one to delete, and one to keep. We could benefit from getting more discussion about this.
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Hi Rusty! I very recently reverted an edit which was vandalism. A user had replaced the profile box of an article dedicated to someone else, with their own personal information. While undoing the edit, I noticed that the box said to provide an explanation if what I was reverting was not vandalism. I believed what I was going to undo was pretty clearly vandalism so I did not provide an explanation and left the default message as it was. For future reference, should I be adding anything in the edit summary? Or is there anything else that needs to be done? --
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- You might want to let users know about this by warning them on their talk page. You can find a list
here
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- To warn a user, create a section with the current month and year as the subject, or add a comment to an existing section with the current month/year as the name. Paste the code from the list, and remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~ - on the key next to "1" on most English-language keyboards) if using the source editor
- There are also tools that can help you with the revert-and-warn process, like
Twinkle
, which I use.
- Feel free to ask if you have further questions regarding reverting vandalism or warning users.
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- Hiya, thank you so much for the helpful information on warnings! I have provided the user with a gentle, level 1 warning. We should be all good for now, thanks again for all the great help Rusty!
- P.S. Twinkle looks terrifying at the moment, maybe in the future!
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Seems to be confusion such as
Special:Diff/1221313560/1223346402
and
Special:Diff/1209056379/1223346275
.
If it says "Vol. 4" this translates to
|volume=4
. The volume is not the same thing as
|issue=
or
|number=
.
|issue=
or
|number=
are aliases of each other, they are the same thing. I typically use
|number=
but if you prefer you can use
|issue=
. Either way, they are not the same thing as
|volume=
. Often times, there is only a volume and no issue/number. Some times there is only a issue/number and no volume, but this is less common. The
|date=
can be a 4-digit year, or a full date, but either way it should not be confused with volume or issue/number ie. the date is its own thing. Hope that helps. --
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- To clarify, when you add both
|issue=
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|number=
, as here
Special:Diff/1221317184/1223347002
, it causes a red error to be generated in the citation list, and for the page to be listed at
Category:CS1 errors: redundant parameter
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A tag has been placed on
Richard Burgin (disambiguation)
requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under
section G14 of the criteria for speedy deletion
, because it is a disambiguation page which either
- disambiguates only one extant Wikipedia page and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a
primary topic
);
- disambiguates zero extant Wikipedia pages, regardless of its title; or
- is an
orphaned
redirect with a title ending in "(disambiguation)" that does not target a disambiguation page or page that has a disambiguation-like function.
Under the
criteria for speedy deletion
, such pages may be deleted at any time. Please
see the disambiguation page guidelines for more information
.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may
contest the nomination
by
visiting the page
and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with
Wikipedia's policies and guidelines
. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the
deleting administrator
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Hello Rusty,
I've been a big fan for Wikipedia for a while, used it as my main source of history knowledge, however, never edited anything.
Now though is a different situation: I am, being a CPA, former central banker, and now web developer, working on a new type of a social network.
And I would like to create a Wikipedia page for it.
Do you think it may be rejected just because I have no tenure with Wikipedia?
Regards,
Stas --
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- @
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: It will probabyl not be rejected because you have no tenure with Wikipedia, as long as it follows the relevant policies and guidelines; I've seen some newcomers create very well-written articles.
- What I'm concerned about is when you say you want to create a Wikipedia page for your new social network. I don't want to discourage you, but it might be hard to write neutrally, from an unbiased perspective, for one.
- Conflict of interests (COIs) also need to be
disclosed
(see the link for more information).
This
guide also contains advice and what to do and not do.
- If you think you would be fine writing an article about it, however, start it as a draft through our
Articles for Creation
process. We have
a guide
that might help with this.
- Feel free to ask if you have questions.
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- Thanks!
- Is looking at it before I submit something that you can do?
SZEROb
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SZEROb
: Yes, I can; any user can see and edit basically any page on Wikipedia. And you don't have to submit it just at once; you can start it, and keep on working on it until you feel that it's ready for submission.
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- Yes, I obviously know, was just wondering if it needs some first-level review for first-time posters. Thank you.
SZEROb
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- Hopefully last question for today:
- What I am working on is a new type of a web forum/board. Therefore it's a new creation in a new Category.
- I am reading that I add category by adding to my new page, but what if that category does not exist? Do I create Category first? Or does category get created automatically if I add this syntax to my page?
SZEROb
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- Never mind, I found the answer myself!
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how do i do a article? --
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Help:Your first article
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Hi there, Rusty4321, and welcome to Women in Red. It's good to see you intend to spend some of you editing time helping us to improve Wikipedia's coverage of women. As you have not yet created any articles, with the help of our
Ten Simple Rules
, you might like to have a go at creating a woman's biography. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties or need assistance. Happy editing!--
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Thank you!
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May 2024, Volume 10, Issue 5, Numbers 293, 294, 305, 306, 307
Online events:
Announcements from other communities
Tip of the month:
- Use
open-access
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paywalled
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Hello Rusty:
Yesterday I began composing my first article and learning out how to use the layout tools.
Randal K article name: POLKA DOT ALLEY a flamenco dance trilogy
After adding a few paragraphs I thought, how do I save what I wrote in order to continue later.
Seeing no Save Button I accidentally clicked the Publish button.
After logging out I got an email from Ivvaqarhashmi via Wiki that said my article was speedily deleted.
Of course it was deleted because it was far from being finished.
And I know now the Publish Button was the wrong choice.
When I view the email message I received and see a link with the words “contest the nomination by visiting the page”, and click it, it takes me back to the same page.
When I go back to continue my article a box reads Randal K been deleted.
Can you help me to get reinstated so I can continue adding content to finish my documentary film article?
Thank you, Randal K --
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- No, the "Publish Changes" button is how you save any change on Wikipedia. It wasn't deleted because it wasn't finished, it was because someone thought you were using making a personal webpage of sorts. The page wasn't restored to your user page; it was restored to a
draft
, at
Draft:Polka Dot Alley
.
- As long it is a draft, it can basically be as unfinished as it is, and you can keep adding to it.
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- Also, as Primefac said, I recommend you to read
Help:Your first article
, and look at the page
Wikipedia:42
to ensure that the article meets our basic inclusion criteria.
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Hi Rusty:
Although Primetec said he restored my username I'm still getting dialog boxes saying “Wikipedia does not have a user page with this exact title,” and “A page with this title has previously been moved or deleted.”
I got a message from you talking about drafts.
On my Wiki page I see links titled Homepage, User Page, and Talk.
But I do not see a link called drafts.
Do you mean I should NOT add content to my User Page.?
Are you saying I should be adding content to a Drafts page and saving that draft by clicking Publish?
Could you please clarify this?
Randal K
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- @
Randal K
:
- Primefac restored the content to a Draft page. You will not see a link for "Drafts," but you can access the page through the search bar like you would any article, but prefixing the title with "Draft:" like "
Draft:Polka Dot Alley
."
- Generally, a user page's purpose is to give information about the editor themselves, but some users also use it to develop drafts. The "Draft" space is designed just for developing articles.
- Also, I noticed that the content you currently have written on your user page doesn't exactly read like an encyclopedia article. We have a
Manual of Style
and I can give you a few suggestions on the article formatting if you'd like them.
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How do I create a Citation --
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- @
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Hi Rusty,
Thank you for your email.
I put up a portion of content yesterday to see what it might look like.
I plan on working on it for the next month or so while reading how other film articles are written and formatted.
Regarding your encyclopedia like comment, I agree.
And yes I would like to hear your suggestions.
Thank you, Randal
Randal K
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]
- @
Randal K
:
- To be clear, I am not sending you emails; it is email notifications you are getting.
- Also, could you please "reply" to existing comments rather than starting a new topic each time? Thanks.
- Your plan sounds good. Feel free to ask if you run in to problems or have questions.
- Rusty4321
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16:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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Hi Rusty,
You asked that I use a ´reply’ button but all I see is an ´add topic’ button. So I took a screenshot but can’t figure out how to attach it here.
You then said my plan sounds good but I’ve again been speedily deleted, all my content is gone, and I cannot figure out how to be reinstated - wondering what am I dong wrong?
Randal K
Randal K
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]
- @
Randal K
: You could request another restore (at
WP:REFUND
). I'd recommend restoring it into Draftspace (
Draft:Polka Dot Alley
), as a page like this (unencyclopedic) in userspace is more likely to be deleted especially when it's in userspace. As for the "reply" button, I see "[ reply ]" links even when logged out, so that is interesting.
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Hello Rusty. I was under the impression that I
can add a subject. I am happy to contribute to already existing articles, however, I'd be happy to also suggest my own. If you have a certain guidelines,please let me know. --
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why was my edit to the Adolf Fredrick article put back the way it was before. Even though the facts were true. And I just thought I'd edit it an add Real facts to the article!
140.141.142.210
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The edit I made was full of true Facts, So why was it deleted and changed back???
140.141.142.210
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- I reverted the initial edit you made because I thought the first wording was better. In the sentence following it states "Popular stories about his death having resulted from a large meal...are considered propaganda by modern writers."
- Your second edit wasn't reverted by me, I recommend asking the reverting user
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