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DePiep
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Of course, making any isotopes table sortable is a great improvement.
To keep in mind. For absolute perfect sorting of half-life values (a time value always, I assume), consider this. Don't bother with figure fiddling, don't even reform numbers (like from y to s), to get the sorting right.
The solution is: use
{{
val
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(in the /row template preferably). It calculates the number into the basic SI time unit: second (time = s, even primordial ones?;-) ). then, it adds that second value by
{{
ntsh
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as an invisible prefix (hidden, but visible for sorting). -
DePiep
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ComplexRational
I have little understanding of how templates work, could you explain what your most recent change... changed? It's causing an odd no target error on
Copernicium
(and possibly elsewhere, this just might be the first alphabetically). -- LCU
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14:59, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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- If you refer to
these
edits in Cn: updated from NUBASE 2016 to 2020 obviously. But you must mean an other element.
- The red error reference in Cn is because of
named reference
changes (like <ref name="Hofmann2016">), which work over
four
element pages so is sensistive to typos & spellings. Will take a look at this Cn.
DePiep
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- No I mean
this
edit. It's somehow interfering with a short form ref to generate a false positive
no target error
. The target for the SFR is already in the article, and the Audi, Kondev, Wang, Huang, Naimi cite in this template duplicates it. There was no error before the change above. -- LCU
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15:23, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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- (
edit conflict
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about the
copernicium
article red message: Fixed
here
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- Apparently the ref name definition was removed from Cn-284; now reinstalled with Cn-285 as I assume CR intentded. Did not check ref relevance.
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DePiep
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- That's completely unrelated to the issue, this has nothing to do this the cite error in regard the to "shesummary" ref. The issue is with the reference "Audi et al. 2017, pp. 030001-128?030001-138" (currently ref 28). You won't see the error unless you have them turned on (see
Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors
). -- LCU
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15:48, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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- I fixed an error message you reported. Anyway, have a nice day further without me.
DePiep
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- ComplexRational, I've seen this ref name "shesummary" in more SHE's (ah, so nothing female then), esp in those
Pages that link to "Template:Isotopes summary"
. Maybe you'd want to check & delete more instances. I won't edit in this. HTH
DePiep
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- That ref was the most recent source for many half-lives at the time I introduced it, though it has now been superseded (NUBASE2020, the new ref for Cn-284). I'll remove it where it's no longer the most accurate, though I'm unsure how this ties into the template issue discussed here.
Complex
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Rational
18:49, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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Sorry let's try this again, to be clear this has nothing to do with the cite error mentioned by DePiep in the last thread. This isn't what I'm talking about, and this error is not fixed.
ComplexRational
I have little understanding of how templates work, could you explain what your most recent change... changed? It's causing an odd no target error on
Copernicium
(and possibly elsewhere, this just might be the first alphabetically). -- LCU
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14:59, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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- My most recent edit to this template was in 2019 to add flexible parameters for table-wide references: this was done to avoid strictly using defaults, as data changes and sources become outdated, but comprehensive sources were still usable on the short-term when more recent data was not available. However, this has been partially superseded by
DePiep
's recent edits, which removed the default and so are blank unless a reference is specified. There shouldn't be another reference template being called here, so I'm unsure what this error message refers to.
- Also, ref 28 is from another transcluded page,
Introduction to the heaviest elements
, but I don't see how this would cause an error by itself.
Complex
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18:42, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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- My god please just ignore me, trying to fix multiple issues across different articles and misread the time stamps. -- LCU
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18:50, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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- The error is a conflict between the refs transcluded by this template, the transcluded text and the cite that exists in the article. Transclusion and refs rarely works well. -- LCU
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18:52, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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- I've fixed the issue by converting btne refs at
Introduction to the heaviest elements
to be inline. -- LCU
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19:01, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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- FYI: just today at 16:29 UTC I edited out default reference calling (
[1]
), checked for safety (no new errors nor data missing). It might well be that you original error has disappeared because of this, don't know. In general, entering but not using a reference tag (
<ref>
) is very tricky, it can create "ghost references".
DePiep
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At
Darmstadtium#Isotopes
the table won't fit on the page and falls off the left edge without scrolling. I tried to fix this by adding a max-width but this seems to have had no effect.
Hairy Dude
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Hairy Dude
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