| This template is within the scope of
WikiProject England
, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
England
on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion
and see a list of open tasks.
England
Wikipedia:WikiProject England
Template:WikiProject England
England-related articles
| | Template
| This template does not require a rating on Wikipedia's
content assessment
scale.
|
|
- Background
I'm having to keep reverting because the edits being made are causing
breakage
across every page that includes the template. This is happening because I converted the template to use
fb start/end
templates and did the requisite work to convert every page that included the Everton F.C. squad template.
SK
has argued that the template is now non-standard as per other
EPL
squad templates (18 + Everton at the moment). The earliest squad template that I can find is the
Arsenal
one, from which all others seem to have been aped. It is my contention that the Arsenal template (and all subsequent derived works) are
non standard
and the Everton F.C. squad template is now the only standard squad infobox as per the WikiProject Football efforts at infobox standardisation (somewhere between 1000 and 1500 pages use this method at the moment).
Further, the version that SK has twice reverted to is
broken
in and of itself. It has a broken link which should point to the
Everton F.C.
page,
Van der Meyde
is being miscapitalised as per "normal" usage described in
Van (Dutch)
and the
Lescott
link is being suffixed with a | incorrectly due to a misunderstanding of the way the template works. In short, it's a
bad revert
.
It also leads to the creation of a nonsensical
Wikitable
when the fb start and end templates are being expanded around a version that already incorporates the opening and closing components of a table. To reiterate, it breaks every page it's included on.
Now, SK is, of course, most welcome to make edits to the template, but edits are different to reactionary reverts. SK, if you
really
want the box to be bigger,
read
the code and try increasing the font-size parameter from 80% to something higher. I can certainly appreciate that the template is short of perfection; for starters, the size of the first and last cells in the banner are different, the flag could use a border but that left aligns the image for some reason and if somebody can find a way to remove the |} after Lescott (displayed only on the template page, not currently showing on pages that include the template) without introducing an extra <br /> at the bottom of the box, that would also be great.
?
veila
#
11:21, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
[
reply
]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Football_%28soccer%29_navigational_boxes_%28standardized%29
Note how no football squads are listed.
Checked several countries England, Germany, Holland, Australia. No Club teams use this fb template so neither should Everton
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Football_squad_templates
The Wikiproject football is simply not ready to work on squad templates as it squashes them making them too tall. If you are confident that it is, please edit all of the squad templates English or otherwise (club teams AND National teams) although you will get people reverting them due to the described squashing.
SenorKristobbal
15:24, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
[
reply
]
additional: here are two screen dumps
1. My reverted template (links fixed van to Van)
http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/1796/withnofb7de.jpg
(no broken page clearly)
2. My reverted template on a page where you encased it in fb templates
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2641/withfb7cb.jpg
(note it squashes the template and BREAKS it)
No-one else has had such a huge problem with this template it is purely fine tuning like
Slumgum
(who invented squad templates). This is exactly like all club templates from all countries. No breaks at all. I would also strongly suddest you spoke to him about the wikiproject football in relation to squad templates.
SenorKristobbal
15:48, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
[
reply
]
I have editted the end of the box so it ends better. I found on Beattie's page as I was removing the fbs that it either merged to another box or left a fat white bit at the bottom of the box. This is fixed now.
SenorKristobbal
16:33, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
[
reply
]