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From the 'coverage area' section: "For many years, WWNY's largest viewership was in Kingston, since for nearly 20 years it was the only station routinely available over-the-air other than the local CKWS-TV."
Um, no. While
CIII-TV
2 signed on (as CKGN) in January 1974 (vs. 1954/55 for CKWS and WWNY), it was the last of the VHF stations to go on the air in the Kingston-Watertown area. There were already three stations (NBC 3, CBS 5 WHEN, ABC 9 WSYR) in Syracuse (which came in poorly, receivable only with a full-size outdoor antenna) and three local stations (
CJOH-TV
6 CTV, WWNY 7, CKWS 11 CBC) in Kingston-Watertown. WPBS-TV (as WNPE) was likely the first UHF station in Kingston-Watertown (1971), followed several years later by an underpowered ABC repeater (of WUTR 20 Utica) on 50 (which has since become WWTI, a full-power local station). CBLFT 32 and CICA 38 are more recent additions (mid-1980's).
CJOH 6 was the last of the three CJOH VHF transmitters to go live (first was CJOH 13 Ottawa, then CJOH 8 Cornwall) but it does pre-date the 1974 addition of CKGN to this market by many years. Furthermore, once 2 Bancroft did go live, it was a hundred miles from Kingston-Watertown (Bancroft is an hour north of Belleville) and therefore no better a signal than the
Syracuse, New York
VHF locals. It might be worth checking when the third CJOH transmitter went on-air before designating WWNY and CKWS as the only game in town for nearly twenty years? They were first, but I'd suspect CJOH 6 has been around for longer than one may realise? --
carlb
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CJOH-6 went on the air in 1972. So from 1954-72 (18 years...the nearly 20 as stated in the article) CKWS and WWNY were the only reliable over the air signals in Kingston.
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The lead has the transmitter located in
Wilna, New York
. The license is in
Carthage, New York
(Carthage is in Wilna, West Carthage is not) but the transmitter is on Champion Hill in
Champion, New York
. The claim of a digital subchannel for CBS on WNYF-CD 35 also looks suspect, as that transmitter is on the same tower as WWNY-DT 7 at low power (so anyone who can see 35 already has 7). The UHF 35 antenna was a leftover from the pointless simulcast US stations were required to provide during DTV transition (WWNY was 7 analogue/35 digital).
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- I'm not sure what to make of this. According to
[1]
WWNY-TV had a 1952-era construction permit for UHF 48 right in Watertown, which was never built... instead they suddenly decided that they wanted to serve Carthage. As a VHF 7 station. It almost looked plopped this down on a hill in tiny
Champion, New York
because that just happened to be almost exactly 175 miles away from Buffalo (which would get co-channel
WKBW 7
- Wimpy Kitty Baby Whiners of "Bruce Almighty" fame - in 1958). Of course, once you list a tiny place on the license, you can't change it - as the FCC won't take away a little village's only TV or FM station absent some very specific extenuating circumstances.
- DT35 and its ugly directional pattern also look weird, unless they forced the coverage pattern this way to prevent the 750kW WWNY-DT analog/digital simulcast from interfering with some crummy
Peterborough station on 35
... only to have their face get stuck in that incredibly awkward expression when they reused the same side-mount antenna for the LPTV (CD) station. From the northwest, it's rubbish. Hence the need to duplicate 28.1 onto 7.2 in SDTV. But no, there is no CBS on WNYF-CD 35 at any time after the end of the analog simulcast (when that channel was still WWNY-DT).
- I'd like to see a clear explanation "the station is licensed to Carthage because (X)" but don't have a reliable source to make that statement.
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