National Basketball Association rivalry
Lakers?Suns rivalry
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First meeting
| November 3, 1968
Lakers 127, Suns 109
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Latest meeting
| February 25, 2024
Suns 123, Lakers 113
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Meetings total
| 336
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All-time series
| 191?145 (LAL)
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Regular season series
| 151?117 (LAL)
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Postseason results
| 40?28 (LAL)
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Longest win streak
| LAL W10
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Current win streak
| PHX W2
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- 1970 Western Division Semifinals
: Lakers won, 4?3
- 1980 Western Conference Semifinals
: Lakers won, 4?1
- 1982 Western Conference Semifinals
: Lakers won, 4?0
- 1984 Western Conference Finals
: Lakers won, 4?2
- 1985 Western Conference First Round
: Lakers won, 3?0
- 1989 Western Conference Finals
: Lakers won, 4?0
- 1990 Western Conference Semifinals
: Suns won, 4?1
- 1993 Western Conference First Round
: Suns won, 3?2
- 2000 Western Conference Semifinals
: Lakers won, 4?1
- 2006 Western Conference First Round
: Suns won, 4?3
- 2007 Western Conference First Round
: Suns won, 4?1
- 2010 Western Conference Finals
: Lakers won, 4?2
- 2021 Western Conference First Round
: Suns won, 4?2
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The
Lakers?Suns rivalry
is a
National Basketball Association
(NBA)
rivalry
between the
Los Angeles Lakers
and the
Phoenix Suns
. The rivalry began as early as the
1969?70 season
when the Lakers and Suns met against each other in the first round of the
1970 NBA playoffs
, with peaks being had throughout the 1980s, early 1990s, and 2000s. While the Lakers won every playoff series from their 3?1 series comeback in 1970 until 1989, the Suns have won the vast majority of playoff series matchups since 1990, winning 5 of the last 7 playoffs series since then, including a reverse series sweep against the Lakers in 1993 and a 3?1 comeback of their own in 2006. While the rivalry cooled off during the 2010s due to poor teams and management by both squads throughout that decade, renewed interest in the rivalry sparked into the 2020s, with both teams returning to
NBA Finals
contention early in the decade, as well as both the Lakers and Suns having notable superstars joining them in
LeBron James
and
Kevin Durant
respectively and the Suns hiring former Lakers coach
Frank Vogel
in 2023. With 13 head-to-head playoff meetings, this is the most frequently played playoff matchup in the history of the
Western Conference
.
Background
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The Lakers were founded in 1947 for the
National Basketball League
(a predecessor of the NBA) after the
Detroit Gems
folded their organization and sold off their assets (which mainly consisted of equipment at the time) to
Bob Berger
and
Morris Chalfen
to create the
Minneapolis Lakers
in
Minneapolis
,
Minnesota
(
Minnesota's nickname
is "The Land of 10,000 Lakes").
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Under their first few seasons of existence, the Lakers saw immediate success as a franchise, winning an
NBL championship
, a
BAA
championship
, and four NBA championships (including
the first championship under the NBA name
while under the Central Division and a three-peat from 1952 to 1954 under the
Western Division
) during six of their seven years in Minneapolis, primarily winning with center
George Mikan
being on their team. The combination of championships made the Lakers arguably the first dynasty in professional basketball history. However, a combination of less than stellar results after Mikan's multiple departures from the team, poor attendance, and a look at how the
Brooklyn Dodgers
successfully transitioned into the
Los Angeles Dodgers
led to the Lakers moving from Minneapolis to
Los Angeles
in 1960, keeping the team name despite a lack of natural lakes in the area. By the end of the 1960s, the Lakers created arguably one of the first
superteams in the NBA
with
Wilt Chamberlain
joining a roster that also included star players
Elgin Baylor
and
Jerry West
.
The Suns, meanwhile, were founded in the NBA in 1968 alongside the
Milwaukee Bucks
as one of two expansion teams that year. The Phoenix team was named the Suns above over 28,000 possible options that were listed in their "name the team" contest due to the city of
Phoenix, Arizona
's nickname of "Valley of the Sun".
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Incidentally, there was originally a semi-pro football team in the Western Professional Football League that was also named the Phoenix Suns before the NBA team existed, though the owner of that team would later settle with the NBA team out of court, according to a 1981 report from
The Arizona Republic
.
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During the
1968 NBA expansion draft
, the Suns selected
Gail Goodrich
,
John Wetzel
, and
Dennis Hamilton
from the Lakers in the expansion draft, though only Goodrich and Wetzel ultimately played for the Suns. The Suns also acquired a Lakers draft pick in 1968 named
Eddie Biedenbach
during free agency. By contrast, the Suns tied with the Bucks for the worst record of their inaugural season with a 16?66 record, with the Lakers winning their first six straight games against the Suns that season. In the following season, the Suns lost a coin flip to acquire
Lew Alcindor
(later named
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
) in the
1969 NBA draft
(which is considered a key point where fans considered there to be a curse on the franchise
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), though they did acquire forward
Connie Hawkins
in free agency to help improve their fortunes a bit early on. In addition to the geographical location similarities, the rivalry between the Suns and the Lakers has been a key point for
Arizona
-based professional sports teams to have heated rivalries against other Los Angeles-based professional sports teams throughout the years.
Early history (1968?1989)
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While the Phoenix Suns first began their existence in 1968, their rivalry with the Lakers truly began as early as the
1969?1970 season
after the Suns got their first regular season win against the Lakers on November 7, 1969. During that season, the Suns won their regular season against the Lakers 4?3 (including an overtime win on February 7, 1970, for their first competitive match to go to overtime). However, they also faced some different struggles during that season, including a point where head coach
Johnny Kerr
was replaced by general manager
Jerry Colangelo
exiting 1969 and entering 1970. Despite ending the season with a 39?43 record and barely qualifying as a No. 4 seed for their first playoff appearance in
1970
after losing their tiebreaker to the
Chicago Bulls
, their opponent in what was known as the Western Division Semi-finals was the No. 2 seeded Lakers, who finished their season at 46?36 in their division that season behind the
Atlanta Hawks
. After losing the first game in Los Angeles, the Suns managed to surprise the Lakers in the next three games afterward through key performances by Hawkins, Goodrich, and
Paul Silas
, with a chance to complete the upset the day after finishing Game 4. However, both Wilt Chamberlain and Jerry West ramped up their quality of play throughout the rest of the series and completed the second ever 3?1 series comeback in NBA history (with the first 3?1 series comeback happening in 1968 by the
Boston Celtics
against the
Philadelphia 76ers
). After the Lakers lost the
1970 NBA Finals
to the
New York Knicks
, the Western Division turned into the
Western Conference
due to greater expansion in the NBA, with the Lakers joining the
Pacific Division
since then and the Suns briefly joining the
Midwest Division
before joining the Lakers in the Pacific Division as of 1972.
Throughout the rest of the 1970s, the Lakers and Suns would not meet each other in the playoffs. However, both of them were able to have competitive success during the decade, with the Lakers winning the
1972 NBA Finals
in a rematch against the Knicks while holding what was considered at the time to be the best record ever at 69?13 and the Suns reaching the
1976 NBA Finals
as unexpected underdogs against the
Boston Celtics
with a more pedestrian 42?40 record. They would also have varying failures involved under what can be considered as the biggest time of parity in NBA history, with the Suns not returning to the playoffs until 1976 through coach
John MacLeod
(with the 1971?72 Suns notably having the best record to not make it to the playoffs at 49?33) and the Lakers failing to make it to the playoffs during the mid-1970s, even during the season they acquired
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
from the Bucks. Both the Lakers and Suns also had competitive games against each other during that decade despite not meeting each other in the playoffs after 1970. The end of the 1970s decade for the Lakers is most notable for two important moments: the selling of the Lakers from
Jack Kent Cooke
to
Jerry Buss
and the acquisition of the
1979 NBA draft
's No. 1 pick,
Magic Johnson
.
The 1980s decade is most notable for it being the era of the
Showtime Lakers
, which was primarily led by Magic and Kareem on offense and
Michael Cooper
on the defensive end. With those three players being their primary players that stayed throughout the most important years of the decade alongside other important players that joined them throughout the decade (including another No. 1 pick in
James Worthy
), the Lakers both won 5 NBA Finals championships throughout that decade (one of them being coached by
Paul Westhead
after letting go of coach
Jack McKinney
due to a near-fatal head injury and the rest being coached by former player
Pat Riley
after firing Westhead) and were the most dominant Western Conference team of the 1980s decade. It was also the most consistent time that both teams met against each other in the playoffs, as the Suns met the Lakers four out of six times throughout the early 1980s due to acquisitions of players like
Walter Davis
,
Truck Robinson
,
Dennis Johnson
, and
Larry Nance
early on in that period of time. However, regardless of which round the Suns played the Lakers in, the Lakers would always dominate the Suns during that period, with the 1984 Western Conference Finals being the only time the Suns got more than one win over the Lakers in that decade. The late 1980s were one of the worst periods for the Suns, however, due to not just key players like
Paul Westphal
and
Alvan Adams
reaching retirement and coach John MacLeod no longer making a viable difference for the team, but also due to a scandalous period of time where players like Walter Davis,
James Edwards
,
Jay Humphries
, and
Grant Gondrezick
were taking illicit drugs (primarily
cocaine
) and damaging the team's reputation in the process, which subsequently later led to the sudden death of the young center
Nick Vanos
at the
Northwest Airlines Flight 255
crash. The sudden shift into being one of the worst teams led to the Suns making more bold, daring choices near the end of the decade by not just having general manager Jerry Colangelo become the new owner of the team as well (which helped save the Suns from potentially moving elsewhere and prematurely ending their rivalry by extension
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), but also led to them making a gutsy trade with Larry Nance,
Mike Sanders
, and their 1988 first round pick being traded to the
Cleveland Cavaliers
for
Kevin Johnson
,
Mark West
,
Tyrone Corbin
, and multiple draft picks (one of which being fan favorite
Dan Majerle
) during the 1987?88 season, as well as fire former player turned coach
John Wetzel
for a return of
Cotton Fitzsimmons
coaching them (after previously doing so in the early 1970s) and sign
Tom Chambers
as the first ever unrestricted free agent during the following season. Those moves led to an immediate payoff for one of the biggest improvements from one season to the next for a franchise, though they still failed to defeat the Lakers in the playoffs by the end of the decade, being swept 4?0 in part due to their inexperience when compared to how the Showtime Lakers performed.
The 1990s and Early 2000s
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By the start of the 1990s, the Lakers were nearing the end of their Showtime era of basketball with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar retiring, most of their other key players from that decade either retiring or leaving the Lakers (including
Kurt Rambis
later joining the Suns in the 1989?90 season), and the rest of their key players getting older and not keeping up with their system like they used to. Despite the end coming closer, the Lakers still managed to get the best record in the NBA at 63?19, while the Suns were getting closer to their caliber with a third-place finish in the Western Conference and second-place finish in the Pacific Division. This helped culminate into a rematch of the 1989 Western Conference Finals in the semi-final round in 1990, as the Suns hoped to overcome their personal demons during that series (Cotton Fitzsimmons had a 0?37 record against the Lakers when coaching in the
Great Western Forum
at the time and the Suns not only hadn't won a playoff series yet to the Lakers, but they also lost 21 straight games while in The Forum dating back to 1984). The Suns managed to take their first step forward in their playoff rivalry with the Lakers by stealing Game 1 from the Lakers at the Great Western Forum with great performances by Tom Chambers, Mark West, and Kevin Johnson being key leaders in their 104?102 win. While the Lakers delivered a crushing blow to the Suns in Game 2 to even the series up, having home court advantage the rest of the way led to the Suns getting a 3?1 series lead over the Lakers at the
Arizona Veterans Memorial Coliseum
, with a chance to defeat the Lakers in the playoffs for the first time ever after failing to do so back in 1970. However, Magic Johnson and the Lakers weren't going to let them win the series that easily, as they commanded a 15-point lead early in Game 5 with Magic scoring a game-high 43 points as their de facto team leader. However, the Suns' own Johnson in Kevin Johnson had a comparable performance of his own with 37 points and 8 assists, with Mark West's 16 rebounds helping the Suns pull off a 106?103 upset win to defeat the Lakers for the first time ever in the playoffs. While the Suns ultimately failed to reach the NBA Finals that year, players like Tom Chambers and
Eddie Johnson
felt like they had truly made it with the series.
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After that series, the Lakers fired Pat Riley and replaced him with
Mike Dunleavy Sr.
and left behind Michael Cooper to have one last shot at a championship with the Showtime Lakers before failing to defeat the
Chicago Bulls
(led by
Michael Jordan
and
Scottie Pippen
with
Phil Jackson
coaching them) and leaving behind the Showtime era for good with the unexpected announcement of Magic Johnson having
HIV
and subsequently retiring by force of fear of the disease afterward.
After the Suns failed to return to the conference finals the following two seasons afterward, they decided they needed a big-time splash in their name with a trade. In their first season moving out of the Veterans Memorial Coliseum and into
America West Arena
(now known as the
Footprint Center
), Phoenix made the bold move to trade All-Star guard
Jeff Hornacek
and forwards
Andrew Lang
and
Tim Perry
to the
Philadelphia 76ers
for a superstar caliber power forward named
Charles Barkley
. With Barkley on the team alongside champion guard
Danny Ainge
and rookies
Richard Dumas
and
Oliver Miller
, the Suns saw immediate results with what was their best season yet at the time with a 62?20 regular season record for the best record in the NBA for the 1992?93 season, with Barkley being the Suns' first ever MVP winner. By contrast, the Lakers were trying to stay competitive without Magic Johnson around, but were severely reeling without his presence to the point where they fired Mike Dunleavy Sr. and replaced him with
Randy Pfund
after their first season without Magic. At the end of Pfund's first season with the Lakers, they had their worst season since the 1974?75 season, though they still barely qualified for the
1993 NBA playoffs
despite their 39?43 record. While the Lakers were expected to have trouble with the Suns in the first round for a change of pace, the Lakers (now being led by James Worthy,
A.C. Green
, and
Vlade Divac
alongside surprise performances by
Sedale Threatt
) managed to stun the city of Phoenix by stealing the first two games of the series against the Suns at America West Arena, being one win away from being the first No. 8 seed to upset a No. 1 seed in the NBA. After the end of Game 2, coach Westphal made a bold guarantee during the postgame Q&A to the media.
We're down 0?2 and I know the next question is, 'are you guys dead?' No, we're going to win the series. We're going to win one [on] Tuesday, then the next game's Thursday, we'll win there, and we'll come back home and we'll win the series on Sunday. And everybody will be saying what a great series it was.
Despite initial critiques from the media, Barkley showed his support for Westphal there while noting the toughness of the situation at hand. This led to Barkley and the Suns bouncing back to win a hard-fought Game 3 and having a much easier Game 4 in the Great Western Forum before returning home to a decisive Game 5 back at the America West Arena. While the Suns made sure to hold the lead by the end of the third quarter, the Lakers under Worthy's leadership saw it to their best capabilities to steal not just the lead, but the series from the Suns by the end of the fourth quarter. However, a key shot late in the game by Dan Majerle led to the game going into overtime, which was where the Suns completely dominated the Lakers for good to win 112?104 and ultimately win their series 3?2, avoiding infamous history being made. This season also was the second time they reached the NBA Finals, though they would lose it to the
Chicago Bulls
also, this time 4?2 with a notable three-point shot by
John Paxson
sealing the deal there.
While the Suns couldn't return to the NBA Finals while they had Charles Barkley around due primarily to the
Houston Rockets
, the Lakers were able to regain Magic Johnson on their roster briefly in 1994 when he became a head coach for them in the early half of that year. Magic Johnson also returned to the Lakers as a player properly in early 1996, where he helped make the Lakers appear to be one of the top teams of the NBA once again. However, Johnson's return to the playoffs ended with a whimper as outside of a 104?94 Game 2 win, the Lakers lost 3?1 in the first round to the then-two-time champion Houston Rockets. 1996 was also a very important year for both teams during the
NBA draft
, as the Lakers and Suns had acquired key players that became important figures within their histories that year, with the Lakers getting
Kobe Bryant
from the
Charlotte Hornets
at pick No. 13 (alongside
Derek Fisher
with their own pick at #24) and the Suns drafting
Steve Nash
at pick No. 15. The 1996?97 season was also important for moves that shifted team trajectories, with the Lakers signing center
Shaquille O'Neal
after feeling the
Orlando Magic
were ungrateful to him and the Suns trading Charles Barkley to the Houston Rockets after feeling disappointed with recent moves Phoenix made to compete, which subsequently led to the Suns trading
Robert Horry
(and
Joe Kleine
) to the Lakers for the return of
Cedric Ceballos
(and
Rumeal Robinson
) after Horry had a confrontation with new coach
Danny Ainge
during a game.
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While both teams remained playoff competitive during that time (despite the Suns losing their first 13 games in their first season without Barkley), the Lakers saw much more significant success with their new key additions to the team. With Shaq & Kobe joining the Lakers, the team improved from every one of their final seasons in the 20th century (aside from the
1998?99 lockout shortened season
) to the point of being considered championship contenders the more seasons they played together, with their apex of greatness coming from the 1999?2000 season when they had a 67?15 record with
Phil Jackson
coaching the Lakers and Shaq being the league's MVP that season.
During that same season, the Shaq & Kobe led Lakers saw the Suns in the Western Conference Semi-finals in their first appearances of the 21st century, with Phoenix implementing what they called "Backcourt 2000" led by the duo of Shaq's former teammate
Anfernee "Penny" Hardaway
and
Jason Kidd
, as well as the brief returns of Kevin Johnson and Oliver Miller, Sixth Man of the Year
Rodney Rogers
, and rookie
Shawn Marion
. While the Suns beat
one rivaling team
in the
San Antonio Spurs
during the
2000 playoffs
, they couldn't do the same with another, much bigger rivaling team in the Lakers, as their roster under Shaq's dominating presence (alongside Kobe's shooting,
Brian Shaw
's playmaking capabilities, and Robert Horry's all-around peskiness) led to the Lakers defeating the Suns 4?1, with Phoenix's only win that series coming in Game 4 with
Clifford Robinson
and
Jason Kidd
upsetting the Lakers in the America West Arena. This eventually led to not just the Lakers winning the 2000 NBA Finals, but getting a three-peat in the early 2000s and one of the most infamous examples of a superteam in NBA history with old superstar players
Karl Malone
and
Gary Payton
joining Shaq & Kobe in an attempt to win the 2004 NBA Finals. Meanwhile, injuries to Hardaway and domestic abuse by Kidd led to "Backcourt 2000" reaching an end by the 2001?02 season alongside the Suns' playoff streak they had since 1988, with their lowest point in the 2000s decade coming in the 2003?04 season with
Stephon Marbury
being traded to New York, a young
Amar'e Stoudemire
being injured, owner
Jerry Colangelo
nearly reaching his limits, and a young, inexperienced roster needing new leadership on what they needed to do for future success.
Seven Seconds or Less (2004?2010)
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During the same season Jerry Colangelo sold the Phoenix Suns to longtime fan and business owner
Robert Sarver
, they reacquired star point guard
Steve Nash
from the
Dallas Mavericks
in free agency after previously having him from 1996 until 1998. With Nash and
Quentin Richardson
being added to the young roster led at the time by Marion, Stoudemire, and
Joe Johnson
, the Suns began what was considered the "
Seven Seconds or Less
" era of Phoenix Suns basketball. Their fast-paced style of basketball was considered the more modernized equivalent of the Showtime Lakers that focused on primarily getting the offense ready and prepared to score in seven seconds or less.
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With that style of play in mind, the Suns tied what was their best regular season record at the time of 62?20 with Steve Nash winning the MVP award in his first season back in Phoenix.
The Lakers, meanwhile, had to deal with the aftermath of their failed superteam for the 2004?05 season, with
Shaq & Kobe feuding
to the point where Shaq demanded a trade to the
Miami Heat
(which got the Lakers
Lamar Odom
,
Caron Butler
,
Brian Grant
, and 2006 first round pick
Jordan Farmar
), Gary Payton was traded to their
greater longtime rivals
in the
Boston Celtics
, Karl Malone retired from playing altogether, Derek Fisher signed a long-term deal with the
Golden State Warriors
, and Phil Jackson was briefly fired from coaching and was replaced by longtime Houston Rockets coach
Rudy Tomjanovich
. Ironically, the Suns considered signing Kobe Bryant on a major deal (around six years worth $100 million) when he was open for free agency in 2004, but the emphasis on signing Steve Nash took them out of the competition for Kobe's services.
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Regardless, the Lakers tried their best to make their bad situation work out with what they had at the time, to the point where they started out the season with a 24?19 record. However, Tomjanovich was forced to resign from his position after his bladder cancer diagnosis got worse after his initial hiring, which left him replaced with assistant coach
Frank Hamblen
taking on the interim head coach role for the rest of the season. That led to the Lakers failing to reach the playoffs for the first time since 1994 with a 34?48 record, as well as them reneging on their decision with Phil Jackson, as they brought him back to coach for a second stint.
During the following season, the Lakers saw some fair improvement with Phil Jackson's coaching return, as he alongside Kobe Bryant's great scoring prowess (including an 81-point game that season) led the Lakers to an improved 45?37 record, earning them the No. 7 seed. However, the Suns still led the Pacific Division despite the frugal departures of Joe Johnson and Quentin Richardson and the season-long injury to Amar'e Stoudemire due to Steve Nash's growing leadership as a player combined with new additions like
Boris Diaw
(who became the Most Improved Player of the Year that season),
Raja Bell
, and both
Kurt
and
Tim Thomas
making sure the team didn't miss a beat along the way. With Phoenix winning the Pacific Division for the second season in a row and Steve Nash winning his second MVP in a row, this gave the Lakers ample motivation early on in the series. After losing Game 1 due to Tim Thomas' offense and Steve Nash's playmaking capabilities, Kobe Bryant turned up his playing capabilities to first win Game 2 with his overall play and then be the primary playmaker for players like
Smush Parker
and Lamar Odom to take Game 3 in the
Staples Center
(now
Crypto.com Arena
). For Game 4, while Lamar Odom was the leading scorer and former No. 1 pick
Kwame Brown
was the leading rebounder, it was Bryant that ultimately won the Lakers Game 4 in overtime with a buzzer-beating two-pointer to win 99?98 and take the series 3?1, thus giving the Lakers a second chance at an upset over the Suns. However, just when it felt like the Lakers would pull off the upset in the first round this time around, the Suns managed to fight back first by having Boris Diaw record a near-triple-double and then by Raja Bell pulling a clothesline move on Kobe that resulted in Bell being ejected for Game 5 and suspended for Game 6, but also sending a message that they weren't going down that easily with a 114?97 win. While the Suns entered the Staples Center undermanned for Game 6, their starting line-up led by Nash & Shawn Marion made sure to keep them competitive throughout the entire game. However, it was a buzzer-beating fourth-quarter three-pointer by Tim Thomas that helped save the series for Phoenix, as his shot sent that game into overtime and gave the Suns their second wind to win 126?118 to tie the series up again, despite Kobe scoring 50 points throughout the game. The Lakers had one last chance to pull off an upset of their own in Phoenix, but an early first quarter rout by the Suns led to Kobe Bryant ultimately giving up on the team by the second half (feeling as though he was the only guy that was actually trying to win that series up until that point), which led to the Suns getting a 121?90 blowout win (led by sixth man
Leandro Barbosa
alongside Shawn Marion and Steve Nash) at the recently renamed
U.S. Airways Center
and avenging their 3?1 series loss to the Lakers back in 1970.
The following season saw a repeat in standings with the Lakers finishing in 7th place once again (this time getting a more disappointing 42?40 record) and the Suns finishing in 2nd place to win the Pacific Division once again while seeing a more improved 61?21 record with Amar'e Stoudemire returning to action (being an All-NBA First Team member alongside Steve Nash that year, being the first teammates to be on the First Team since Shaq & Kobe back in 2004) and both Boris Diaw and Raja Bell keeping the same form of play they had earlier on in the prior season. This led to the Lakers and Suns seeing each other in the first round once again. This time, though, the Suns felt more prepared to take on the Lakers with Amar'e back in action, as Phoenix easily took the first two games at home, with Amar'e, Shawn Marion, and Steve Nash controlling Game 1 and everyone on the Suns taking command of Game 2 (though most notably Leandro Barbosa) with Kobe Bryant scoring only 15 points in the second game. Phoenix looked to have continued to take control for Game 3 at first, but foul trouble by Stoudemire and Bell combined with Kobe's offense and Lamar Odom's rebounding taking over led to the Lakers getting a 95?89 win on their home court. The Lakers then tried to even the series back up again at 2?2, but highlight double-double performances by Stoudemire, Nash, and Marion ultimately were too much for Kobe and the Lakers to overcome for Game 4, leading to a 113?100 win for a 3?1 series lead. Not wanting to leave anything up to chance, the Suns led by Amar'e, Nash, Marion, and Barbosa made sure to not give Kobe Bryant, Lamar Odom, and the Lakers any chances for a series comeback of their own, making sure to beat the Lakers 119?110 at home for the 4?1 series win and their tenth win in eleven straight games. After the series ended, Kobe Bryant was interested in being traded out of the Lakers due to perceived moves like drafting
Andrew Bynum
and trading for
Smush Parker
being seen as rebuilding to his eyes.
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Ironically, the Suns were one of the top teams that Kobe was interested in being traded to alongside the rivaling San Antonio Spurs and Chicago Bulls,
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but no trades ever happened with him and due to later moves like re-signing Derek Fisher to the team, Kobe ultimately stayed with the Lakers for the rest of his career.
The 2007?08 season saw major trades for both teams occur, with different outcomes occurring for them in terms of success. For the Lakers, they traded away
Kwame Brown
,
Javaris Crittenton
, the recently retired turned re-signed
Aaron McKie
, the draft rights to a young and inexperienced
Marc Gasol
, a 2008 first round pick, a 2010 first round pick, and cash considerations to acquire star center
Pau Gasol
and a 2010 second round pick from the
Memphis Grizzlies
after Andrew Bynum was confirmed out for the rest of the season. It was a trade that was widely criticized at the time due to how unbalanced it looked in favor of the Lakers, with rivaling coach
Gregg Popovich
specifically commenting that a committee should be formed to "scratch all trades that make no sense".
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Regardless of the controversy at the time, not only was the trade approved, but it made the Lakers immediate contenders once again, as they not only regained command of the Pacific Division, but they also went as far as the
2008 NBA Finals
immediately with that trade before ultimately winning the NBA Finals in 2009 with Pau Gasol on board. As for the Suns, after doing more trades that had them going for salary cap relief under the new leadership of general manager
Steve Kerr
, they traded an increasingly unsatisfied Shawn Marion and
Marcus Banks
to the
Miami Heat
for Kobe Bryant's former teammate, Shaquille O'Neal. The move was considered the end of the "Seven Seconds or Less" era at the time, as they left behind the quick run-and-gun movement of play to have an alternative of that with the brief "Seven Seconds or Shaq" experiment instead. It also led to the Suns having a quick first round elimination to the
San Antonio Spurs
that later resulted in them failing to reach the
2009 NBA playoffs
entirely due to less than good coaching from new coach
Terry Porter
and an untimely injury to Amar'e Stoudemire three games after
Alvin Gentry
took over.
Despite the great performances the team had when they were at full strength under Gentry, the Suns decided to trade Shaq to the
Cleveland Cavaliers
for the salary dump of
Ben Wallace
. Doing that allowed the Suns to retain
Jason Richardson
,
Grant Hill
, and
Jared Dudley
, as well as sign
Channing Frye
,
Louis Amundson
, and
Jarron Collins
in free agency to help refortify the original strengths of the Seven Seconds or Less era teams while also looking to improve their bench units with second-year players
Robin Lopez
and
Goran Dragi?
also helping out Leandro Barbosa. While the Suns didn't reclaim the Pacific Division title that year, they did improve their previous performances just enough to become the No. 3 seed of the Western Conference that year. After beating the
Portland Trail Blazers
in six games and surprisingly sweeping the newly-rivaling
San Antonio Spurs
in the semi-finals after previously being a major obstacle in their championship path, the Suns saw the Lakers once again in the Western Conference Finals as their biggest obstacle from their best shot at the NBA Finals for their era of offense. Unfortunately for the Suns, the Lakers took care of their first two games at home to begin the series 2?0 with Kobe Bryant, Lamar Odom, Paul Gasol, and the rest of the team doing what they needed to do in the Staples Center. However, the Suns were able to even the series up 2?2 despite Kobe Bryant getting double-doubles in those games with Amar'e Stoudemire and Steve Nash primarily leading the way throughout the games hosted at the U.S. Airways Center, as well as a newly confident Goran Dragi? tying Steve Nash in assists for Game 4. During Game 5 in Los Angeles, the Lakers held the advantage in the first half with a 21?4-point run to lead by as much as 18 points in halftime. However, a 16?4 third quarter rally led by Steve Nash and a game-tying three-pointer by Jason Richardson late in the fourth quarter gave the Suns a chance to pull off another comeback against the Lakers. However, after a missed air-ball by Kobe Bryant,
Ron Artest
(now named
Metta Sandiford-Artest
after going by
Metta World Peace
later in his career) grabbed an offensive rebound and scored a buzzer-beating two-pointer to give the Lakers a 103?101 win to take control of the series 3?2. The Suns had one more chance to even the series at their home court in Game 6, but despite a late comeback attempt in the fourth quarter, Bryant and Artest proved to be too much for the Suns to pull off another comeback, with the Lakers winning 111?103 to get the 4?2 series win and then the
2010 NBA Finals
championship for No. 16 in their history.
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After the Suns lost the 2010 Western Conference Finals, they would go into a major freefall that ultimately lasted throughout the entire 2010s decade. With Steve Kerr resigning from his position at general manager and later being replaced by
Lon Babby
and
Lance Blanks
, Robert Sarver and the Suns not only failed to retain Amar'e Stoudemire due to them not budging on a partial guarantee met by a certain amount of games played instead of a full guarantee, but they also made multiple trades for lesser players throughout the 2010?11 season that ultimately ended the Seven Seconds or Less offensive style for them in general. After having an average record in the season with the
2011 NBA lockout
being their final season with Steve Nash playing for them, they ultimately decided to trade Nash to the Lakers in July 2012 for a 2013 first round pick (which was from the
Miami Heat
, but held the option to be the Lakers' own first round pick instead had the Lakers missed the playoffs that year), a 2015 protected first round pick that eventually turned into an unprotected 2018 first round pick (which became
Mikal Bridges
), a 2013 second round pick from the
Denver Nuggets
, a 2014 second round pick, and cash considerations. The loss of key veterans like Nash, Grant Hill, and Channing Frye combined with the inexperience of the new roster they had (including replacing head coach Alvin Gentry with assistant coach
Lindsey Hunter
as the interim coach for the second half of their season) led to them having what was their second-worst record yet at the time at 25?57.
Meanwhile, the Lakers continued being the dominant team in the Pacific Division early on in the 2010s, remaining as a top three team in the Western Conference in their first two seasons entering the new decade, albeit failing to win a sixth championship for Kobe Bryant. However, cracks on their long-term structure first appeared when a trade they were supposed to get for star
New Orleans Hornets
point guard
Chris Paul
after the 2011 NBA lockout ended was vetoed by NBA commissioner
David Stern
after multiple complaints by other team owners, including Phoenix's Robert Sarver. With that season being the last season coached by Phil Jackson altogether, their 2012?13 season was expected to be a continuation of top-tier performances by the Lakers, who acquired Steve Nash from the Suns and
Dwight Howard
from the
Orlando Magic
to become a new superteam led by
Mike Brown
coaching the team. However, it immediately became a mess of a season between constant injuries from their top players, poor coaching by Brown leading to a new interim coach in
Bernie Bickerstaff
before being replaced by former Suns coach
Mike D'Antoni
for the rest of their season, and the untimely death of team owner
Jerry Buss
leading to his son
Jim Buss
taking over the structure of the Lakers. Despite the constant struggles and risk of missing the playoffs and their first round pick to the Suns, a late April surge by the Lakers led to them making it to the
2013 Playoffs
as the No. 7 seed due to a combination of a win over the
Houston Rockets
and a loss to the
Utah Jazz
. However, the consequences of that season would prove to be a long-term disaster for the Lakers also.
The Suns did appear to return to playoff contention during the mid-2010s at first with a major revamping of the roster by new general manager
Ryan McDonough
and new head coach
Jeff Hornacek
leading them to a 48?34 season in their first season (with Goran Dragi?,
P.J. Tucker
, and twin brothers
Markieff
and
Marcus Morris
being the only available players from the 2012?13 season to the 2013?14 season, excluding Channing Frye's return) and then a 29?25 record entering the
2015 NBA All-Star Game
a season later. However, increasing dissatisfaction from players like Goran Dragi?,
Isaiah Thomas
, and eventually
Markieff Morris
and
Eric Bledsoe
led to major trades that reversed course into trying to find new success through the
NBA draft
in the late 2010s instead. Both the Suns and the Lakers saw greater failures throughout the rest of the decade since their respective failure points, with increasing problems occurring for Phoenix and injuries and increasing incompetence going on with the Lakers. Both the Suns and Lakers saw greater periods of failures and low points that they hadn't seen since the early periods of their histories, with both teams also having their greatest playoff droughts in team history by 10 seasons for Phoenix and 6 seasons for the Lakers. Both teams also tried to rebuild themselves through the NBA draft later in the decade, with the Lakers having a higher quality of successful players drafted by comparison (such as
Julius Randle
,
Jordan Clarkson
,
D'Angelo Russell
,
Larry Nance Jr.
,
Brandon Ingram
,
Ivica Zubac
,
Lonzo Ball
,
Kyle Kuzma
,
Josh Hart
,
Thomas Bryant
, and
Moritz Wagner
), but the Suns having arguably the best overall player drafted with
Devin Booker
in 2015 (as noted by Kobe Bryant himself giving props to Booker in the only match they played against each other) alongside their first ever No. 1 pick with
Deandre Ayton
in 2018. Both teams also saw increasing changes in coaching (with the Suns having seven different coaches in seven years and the Lakers having
Byron Scott
and
Luke Walton
replace Mike D'Antoni later on) and general management (with Jim Buss being replaced by
Jeanie Buss
as majority team owner in 2017 and Ryan McDonough being replaced by former player
James Jones
as general manager for new directions going forward) that further led to their decreasing quality in play, even after the Lakers later acquired
LeBron James
in 2018.
Rivalry renewal of the 2020s
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Before dealing with the
COVID-19 pandemic
, both the Lakers and the Suns saw some genuine improvements with themselves once they exited the 2010s and entered the 2020s decade. For the Lakers, the acquisition of
New Orleans Pelicans
power forward/center
Anthony Davis
they hinted at back in the 2018?19 season alongside the new coaching hire of
Frank Vogel
and veteran pick-ups like
Rajon Rondo
,
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
,
JaVale McGee
,
Danny Green
,
Avery Bradley
, the return of
Dwight Howard
, and former Suns players
Jared Dudley
and
Markieff Morris
helped provide the Lakers their first playoff appearance since 2013. As for the Suns, under new head coach
Monty Williams
with a focus on trades for older players like
Kelly Oubre Jr.
,
Dario ?ari?
,
Cameron Johnson
,
Aron Baynes
,
Ricky Rubio
, and
Jevon Carter
; the Suns saw their best success before the pandemic began since 2015 with a 26?39 record. The
2019?20 NBA season suspension
risked both teams failing to even have their seasons continue, never mind having the
2020 NBA playoffs
occur altogether, but they were both given access to the
2020 NBA Bubble
to help continue their seasons properly. Both teams saw significant success as newfound turning points once they entered the
ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex
in
Orlando, Florida
after the Suns signed
Cameron Payne
and the Lakers signed
J. R. Smith
for the Bubble, with Phoenix having a perfect 8?0 record in the Bubble (although missing the playoffs yet again) and the Lakers eventually winning the
2020 NBA Finals
to tie the NBA for most championships won there with 17 (dedicating this championship to Kobe Bryant and his daughter Gianna after their tragic passing in the
2020 Calabasas helicopter crash
earlier in the season).
While still dealing with the long-term consequences of the pandemic for a somewhat shortened 2020?21 season, the Suns sought to make significant changes by trading Kelly Oubre Jr., Ricky Rubio,
Jalen Lecque
,
Ty Jerome
, and a 2022 first round pick to the
Oklahoma City Thunder
for
Chris Paul
and
Abdel Nader
. That trade alongside the signing of veteran forward
Jae Crowder
and a later trade for
Torrey Craig
helped the Suns not only end their playoff drought that began back in the 2010?11 season, but they also won the Pacific Division championship and had the second-best record of the NBA for the shortened season at 51?21 behind only the
Utah Jazz
. Meanwhile, the Lakers and
Miami Heat
(the losing 2020 NBA Finals team) had only 72 days off between the NBA Finals and the start of that season, which left not enough time for players like LeBron James and Anthony Davis to fully recover properly. Despite the inherent disadvantage, the Lakers still finished the season with a 42?30 record, leading to a seventh-place finish and a gritty win over the
Golden State Warriors
in the newly implemented and upgraded
NBA play-in tournament
to gain the 7th seed that season. Due to COVID-19 protocols at the time, neither team could fully fill up their stadiums with proper crowds, but they both made sure to provide a great first round for their rivalry being renewed since their last playoff match against each other in 2010. For Game 1, the performances of
Devin Booker
,
Deandre Ayton
, and Chris Paul from the Suns overtook the Lakers from the very start of the game, ultimately winning 99?90 in their first playoff match since 2010. For the next two games, though, the overpowering presences of Anthony Davis, LeBron James, and
Andre Drummond
led to the Lakers taking over the series with a 2?1 series lead with convincing victories at hand, as well as a notable moment in Game 3 where Andre Drummond was reflecting LeBron's movements offensively against Jae Crowder. For Game 4, however, Anthony Davis suffered a serious groin injury that led to him leaving the rest of the game, which subsequently led to the Suns winning 100?92 and tying the series back up again. Davis' absence in Game 5 led to the Suns blowing out the Lakers with a 115?85 score (highlighted by LeBron James willingly exiting the game in what was known as the
Phoenix Suns Arena
at the time with a few minutes left to go in the game) and forced the Lakers to try and get Davis back in action for Game 6. Unfortunately for the Lakers, Anthony Davis still faced serious pain with his groin during Game 6, which left him playing only limited minutes and led to Devin Booker having a series closing game of 47 points and 12 rebounds in a 113?100 win to secure a 4?2 series win over the Lakers during the last playoff series the Lakers played in for the Staples Center under that name. Phoenix eventually reached the
2021 NBA Finals
, but ultimately lost to the
Milwaukee Bucks
4?2.
The following season after that had the Suns record a new personal best 64?18 record leading the entire NBA that year by signing former Lakers center
JaVale McGee
alongside
Bismack Biyombo
, while the Lakers tried to have a new superteam with
Russell Westbrook
,
Carmelo Anthony
,
Rajon Rondo
for a second time, and Dwight Howard for a third time joining LeBron James and Anthony Davis. However, that superteam failed to even reach the play-in tournament for 2022, seeing themselves be eliminated from direct playoff contention on April 5, 2022, with a 121?110 defeat to the Phoenix Suns themselves, though Phoenix later saw a disappointing second round exit that season by
Luka Don?i?
and the
Dallas Mavericks
. For the 2022?23 season, both the Suns and Lakers saw early struggles due to serious controversy with owner
Robert Sarver
and a failed offseason trade for
Kevin Durant
for Phoenix and troubles adapting to new head coach
Darvin Ham
and trying to make last season's superteam attempt still work for the Lakers respectively. However, with necessary adjustments combined with key trades for the Suns and Lakers by that season's trade deadline (acquiring
Kevin Durant
after
Mat Ishbia
and
Justin Ishbia
replaced Robert Sarver for the Suns and creating better balance over a superteam for the Lakers respectively), both team still made it to the playoffs, with the Lakers winning another play-in tournament game (this time against the
Minnesota Timberwolves
). Despite the Suns having a better overall record, the 7-seeded Lakers managed to go farther in the playoffs than the Phoenix Suns via the Western Conference Finals, though both teams fell to the eventual champion
Denver Nuggets
, with the Suns being the only team to get more than one win against Denver.
Entering the 2023?24 season, the Phoenix Suns looked to create their own superteam with
Chris Paul
and
Landry Shamet
being traded alongside a bunch of first round picks to the
Washington Wizards
for star shooting guard
Bradley Beal
joining Devin Booker and Kevin Durant alongside mostly veteran's minimum players joining them, as well as having former Lakers coach
Frank Vogel
being their new head coach. Meanwhile, the Lakers looked to continue to build upon their success from the prior season by retaining most of the key players they acquired that season like
D'Angelo Russell
,
Rui Hachimura
,
Austin Reaves
, and
Jarred Vanderbilt
, as well as acquire players like
Gabe Vincent
and
Christian Wood
to help their bench unit. The second game of the season for both teams was Kevin Durant's first match against LeBron James while LeBron was in Los Angeles and Durant was in Phoenix (and their first regular season matchup in five years). Kevin Durant lead the Suns in scoring with 39 points, but LeBron helped lead the Lakers to bounce back and win 100?95 on October 28, 2023.
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In addition to that, the Suns and Lakers both were grouped in Group A of the
inaugural NBA In-Season Tournament
, with their debut game there being on November 10, 2023, at the
Footprint Center
. That game ended with the Lakers winning 122?119 with the Suns leading for most of the game, but the Lakers put up a 14?0 run after a buzzer-beating three-point shot by
Cameron Reddish
that Phoenix could not catch up from afterward. Another In-Season Tournament match happened between them during the knockout round portion of the tournament, with the Lakers being the best team of Group A and the Suns being the best team of the rest of the groups' second-best teams in the competition by point differential. Both teams met in the In-Season Quarterfinals in Los Angeles with the Lakers winning 106?103, though the game ended in controversy with the Lakers' penultimate timeout being accepted despite them not having possession of the ball at the time they called the timeout. The Lakers later ultimately won the inaugural tournament on December 9, 2023, defeating the
Indiana Pacers
at the
T-Mobile Arena
in
Las Vegas
,
Nevada
123-109. Despite the fact that the Suns and Lakers now held 5 regular season matches against each other instead of their usual four, their next match after that still occurred on January 11, 2024. That time, all of the Suns' Big 3 were playing together with Bradley Beal returning from his injuries earlier in the season. With it, Bradley Beal led the Suns in scoring with a season-high (at the time) of 37 points and Devin Booker followed with 31 points to crush the Lakers 127?109 entering 2024. For their final regular season game after the trade deadline and
2024 NBA All-Star Game
on February 25, both teams heavily relied upon their starting line-ups to score in a more balanced effort (with primary leaders revolving around LeBron James, Anthony Davis, and D'Angelo Russell for the Lakers), but a huge run in the first quarter and key shots by
Grayson Allen
and new addition
Royce O'Neale
combined with the consistent effort of
Jusuf Nurki?
and bench unit effort from
Bol Bol
secured a 123?113 win to end the regular season between them.
Players in both teams
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